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posted by: Yolande ® 06/09/2009, 18:18:21 |
I am new here. I assume none of you are "biblical based christians"
Realising that...
I hope you don't mind me asking?
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re: question on christianity -- Yolande top of thread archive
posted by: Jeff ®
06/19/2009, 16:37:32
Christianity, like all of the world's major religions, is a path to God, the Uncreate Wisdom from which all of creation sprang from. We walk this path through humility towards God, orthodoxy and heightened discrimination between the forces of Good and Evil, love and devotion towards Christ who will redeem us for our sins and give us entry into Heaven... Ultimately, if a Christian takes their religion seriously and treats others as Jesus taught, believes in Jesus and aspires to attain the Kingdom of Heaven, then their soul will be saved and find bliss. This path was made accessible to all, and requires no level of rank or ethnic background, but submission towards God and adherence to Christian doctrine.
Modified by Jeff at Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 16:41:42
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posted by: LoneRanger7 ®
06/20/2009, 14:40:56
Dear all, I tend to see Christians as the followers of The Christ although I do not believe in just 1 True Christ and, to make it quite clear, not see them as less or more. It's a different approach which is not mine.
I consider them exoteric, basing the saving of their soul (if it needs to be saved) on an outside phenomena and an occurrence outside their own power.
I consider myself esoteric: we already have everything on board to get into the stage of full happiness and don't need to go elsewhere or rely on external occurrences or powers.
I was raised Roman Catholic, did have a lot of attraction to Jesus but not to the church.
The more I read about the Nag Hamadi scrolls and the difference with the Bible I was sure that Jesus was pointed out as The Christ for the church so that they could get the followers of Jesus and all the people in need for an external power to base their change upon. That's where in my view Christians need an external power to reach the point of enlightenment which I do not believe in.
Everybody is entitled to their own religion and own convincing, let that be very clear. It has been a right for centuries.
The tipping point for me is that when you reach your own convincing or, in my case, my own knowing, there is no need any more to convince others......
In full peace with your Self, there is no need to build a group or organisation to believe or know within rules, there's no need to "BackUp" your foundation, you know, which is a very strong knowing, a power to reach all you wish for from your soul point of view.
This strong knowing is what Jesus reached in his life and people came to him to learn this knowing, he didn't go out and try to gain more "lost" souls, they came to him because his answers were crystal clear and strong in power. Main issue of all his stories and power is non-judgement in ALL cases and to ALL people, even to people who are still in their egoic stage and wish to steer and manipulate.
This 100% non-judgement was the main threat to all exoteric based religions, due to their base of Heaven and Hell, guild and resurection, suffering and joy AND the hierarchy if popes and clergy needed to be in between.
To go from Hell on earth to Heaven on earth or the Kingdom of Heaven is just a split second of thinking differently and not due to a life of suffering to MAYBE wind up in Heaven in the end of your life.....
arjen
LR7
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